Topics Started by jonathan dough

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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus
by snowbird in
1. watchtower
2. bible
http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.
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How far away from their original beliefs are JW's?
by besty in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i was struck by a quote in a very recent watchtower claiming that wts publications are now part of the bible.

quite a bold statement.. how about these two quotes beside each other:.

we would not refuse to treat one as a brother because he did not believe the society is the lord's channel.
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Kids Still Get Whacked @ Armageddon. Current Light. (With Pix!)
by Open mind in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if you've clicked around on other sites, you can find the troubling picture i grew up with from the old orange paradise lost book.

a big old armageddon earthquake that is swallowing up people, churches, a bicycle, a dog!

) and of course, a little girl in a dress that is indelibly planted in my memory chips.
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Is shunning scriptural? At all?
by Open mind in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
it's obvious that the jw view of shunning goes way beyond anything called for in the bible.

1 cor 5:11-13 says,(nwt) "but now i am writing you to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

for what do i have to do with judging those outside?
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Fact Jews Returned In 538 BC Kills Off Watchtower Chronology
by AlanF in
1. watchtower
2. bible
the watchtower society's 1914 chronology hinges on a dicey chain of claims.

if any of these claims is wrong, then the chain is broken and watchtower chronology collapses.

along with it goes the entire belief structure built on it, including most importantly the claim of the leaders of jehovah's witnesses to have been specially appointed in 1919 by god over "all christ's belongings" on earth.
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The 144,000 and the Great Crowd of Revelation
by Leolaia in
1. watchtower
2. bible
8-11; ch.

as in ch.

like the "great crowd", they are "of every race, language, people, and nation (cf.
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Is this WTS teaching a contradiction?
by Honesty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the wts does not believe the soul is anything other than a person's whole being but they teach that the 144,000 are resurrected to heaven as immortal beings.

can anyone explain what they really are trying to say?

i hope this makes a little bit of sense.
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Daniel's Prophecy, 605 BCE or 624 BCE?
by Little Bo Peep in
1. watchtower
2. bible
hello all, i've been reading your site for a couple of years now, and have found, for the most part, it to be very helpful.

i must say, at first i was very "scared" at what i might find, but contrary to what i grew up learning, there is a "wealth" of information outside of the watchtower organization.

i haven't attended meetings for about two years now, and like many i've read about, have spent many hours researching, telling myself "i'm not wrong for searching", and doing more research.
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~Please help answer this question about a Watchtower doctrine~
by FlyingHighNow in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
does anyone know what year the wtbts started teaching the mortality of the soul doctrine?

did it preceed the earthly hope doctrine?

i'm curious to know if the wtbts started teaching that your body is your soul, so that they could explain what happens to those with an earthly hope or who look forward to an earthly, fleshly resurrection.. knowing the answer to this question would help me let go of that brainwashing, that we don't have a separate, spirtual soul.
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How old is your "soul"?
by obiwan in
1. jw
2. experiences
i think i have mentioned this before, but i'm curious.

my girlfriend and i had a discussion with some friends about how old they felt thier souls were.

for myself, i have the feeling with alot of things in life that i have done them before.